CW300 in Windows XP as a data drive??? [Archive]

David

09-11-2003, 18:01

Dear Support,

I have heared numerous good things about the CW300. I am almost sure CW300 is my MP3 player of choice. However, I do have one concern that requires your input on this. If I connect a CW300 to Windows XP, do I still need to use the Jet manager to transfer MP3 files to the player or will XP detect CW300 as a removable device, so I can drop mp3 files it without using the tranfer utility? Thank you in advance for your help.

David

jetAudio

09-11-2003, 18:13

trinix

09-12-2003, 03:35

Hi,
...our next version of iAUDIO will support mass storage!...
Great improvement! I am look forward for this new feature! :D

AlexV

09-13-2003, 01:28

our next version of iAUDIO will support mass storage!

I was considering buying a CW300, but I was put off by the poor JetShell software, so this is great news for me. What I want to know is by "next version of iAudio" do you mean a new player, or new firmware for the CW300? If you mean new firmware, I will buy the CW300 and wait for it. If you mean a new player, I will wait until that is released, then buy that one. Do you have any idea when it will be available?

Thanks,

Alex

David

09-15-2003, 12:29

Dear Support,

Can you please provide the info the the question from AlexV...I am also waiting for the Masss storage support on the Iaudio before purchasing one. Thank you so much.

New model or new firmware....???

I was considering buying a CW300, but I was put off by the poor JetShell software, so this is great news for me. What I want to know is by "next version of iAudio" do you mean a new player, or new firmware for the CW300? If you mean new firmware, I will buy the CW300 and wait for it. If you mean a new player, I will wait until that is released, then buy that one. Do you have any idea when it will be available?

Thanks,

Alex

AlexV

09-17-2003, 00:43

I emailed iaudio@jetaudio.com with this question, and got the reply:

Regarding USB Mass Storage, CW300 couldn't support it even through
upgrading firmware. But our next version of iAUDIO will support it. It
may be available at the end of this year. But I'm not sure.

thek

09-17-2003, 07:49

inspix

09-17-2003, 17:18

I emailed iaudio@jetaudio.com with this question, and got the reply:

AlexV, could u help me email iAudio on whether future FIRMWARE upgrade may add the 'reverb' effect and 'wide' effect as found on their JetAudio software...i always found these DSP effects of JetAudio to sound very good, and hope they can be incorporated into their mp3 players as well.
In addition, I would also be interested if STEREO FM recording can be made possible with firmware upgrading...

inspix

09-17-2003, 17:26

I use the JetShell Lite (no license needed) for transfering mp3 and other files between my computer at home and at work. I think it works just fine! Usually I don't need to download files from any other computers therefor a USB mass storage is, for me, not as important.

Note: To upload mp3 from the player you myst start JetShell with start option: /8732

Initially, I was quite dissapointed that iAudio couldn't support mass storage. However, upon some rationalisation, I figured this is not really a big disadvantage.
As a music lover, I do not think I would like to 'share' the space with some other computer file.
I can always get a separate dedicated thumb drive, with a much bigger capacity, for that purpose. Prices are dropping nowadays for these thumb drives.

AlexV

09-18-2003, 01:10

I'm sorry, I know nothing more about any future firmware or players than the email I qouted already.

The reason for wanting mass storage support (for me, at least) is not to be able to upload mp3s, or to download other sorts of files, or to be able to use it on other computers. I plan to use it only for playing mp3's, and pretty much only with one PC. The reason I want mass storage support is so I don't have to use a special transfer program to get mp3s on to the device.

If the player appears as a drive letter then there is so much more flexibility in things I can do with it to get files on to it. I can drag and drop, or right click Send To, or copy across on the command line, or write a bat script to copy the files I want automatically. I can use auto-renaming or other utilities to automatically process files as they are copied across, I can rip directly from CD's on to the device (using my favourite CD extraction software, which has the features I want) with a single click. I can use sorting software, such as GearVolt, so the tracks go on it in artist/album/track number order, or anything else I prefer. Basically, what it gives me is the flexibility to use it in the way which suits me best, rather than being forced to use the (frankly inadequate) JetShell software.

The most glaring omission from the JetShell software is the ability to sort the tracks so that I can get them in album/track number order. Not displaying ID3 info in the file list is pretty useless too. As for reordering tracks by clicking each one up or down into position, that is pretty much unusable if you are moving more than a couple of tracks.

mihai

09-20-2003, 23:04

AlexV, some of the points you raised can be done.
As about mass storage driver, I think COWON don't want any copyright issues (moving mp3s from one computer to another, etc. ..who knows).
Even with a mass storage driver, I think they will block somehow mp3 uploads from the player. Or maybe, in the end, it's all about marketing (buy the newer product because it has more features than the older one, etc.). :)

trinix

09-21-2003, 08:20

Hi,
...If the player appears as a drive letter then there is so much more flexibility in things I can do with it to get files on to it. I can drag and drop, or right click Send To, or copy across on the command line, or write a bat script to copy the files I want automatically. I can use auto-renaming or other utilities to automatically process files as they are copied across, I can rip directly from CD's on to the device (using my favourite CD extraction software, which has the features I want) with a single click. I can use sorting software, such as GearVolt, so the tracks go on it in artist/album/track number order, or anything else I prefer. Basically, what it gives me is the flexibility to use it in the way which suits me best, rather than being forced to use the (frankly inadequate) JetShell software.

The most glaring omission from the JetShell software is the ability to sort the tracks so that I can get them in album/track number order. Not displaying ID3 info in the file list is pretty useless too. As for reordering tracks by clicking each one up or down into position, that is pretty much unusable if you are moving more than a couple of tracks.
I think you have a lot of really good suggestions for the next generations of iAUDIO CW and jetShell software. In a lot of cases I agree with your points especially in the case of display the tag in the file list or at least in the scroll bar beside the spectrum in jetShell.
On the other side I think the same like mihai. If you use the CW as a mass storage without any restrictions maybe there are problems with licensing and other Rights Management.

AlexV

09-23-2003, 01:07

If you use the CW as a mass storage without any restrictions maybe there are problems with licensing and other Rights Management.

Um, what about actual USB pen drives? Or, for that matter, floppy disks, CD-Rs, Zip Disks, LS-120s, DVD-Rs, Compact Flash, and any other form of data transport I may have missed? They don't seem to have any legal issue with putting any sort of data on to it, and taking it off elsewhere. Does that fact that the CW is also able to play the files it stores really make any difference?

The tricky bit (as far as I can tell) will be to provide the other functionality that JetShell provides (LCD customisation, for example).

If they did not want to go the generic USB Mass Storage route, they might like to consider proper expolorer namespace shell integration at least. My Psion palmtop and Siemens mobile phone both use this mechanism. The device appears at the same level as "My Computer" (under the desktop), and can be browsed through that way. They can customise the menus and toolbar buttons available while browsing the device, and control exactly what happens when copying to or from the device. Using this they could replicate the current JetShell functionality easily. Still not quite a flexible as appearing as a drive letter, but an improvement on having to load JetShell seperately. Ideally, of course, they would have both this *and* a drive letter, but I guess that might be asking too much.

iAUDIO

09-24-2003, 23:40

Thank you for your suggestion.
We provided them to the developer of jetShell. so they may reflect them soon.

trinix

09-26-2003, 09:27

Hi,
Thank you for your suggestion.
We provided them to the developer of jetShell. so they may reflect them soon.
That's a good response. :D

AlexV

09-29-2003, 04:56

Hi,

That's a good response. :D

Yep, sounds good to me to. On the other hand, http://www.iaudio.com/zeroboard/zboard.php?id=A02&no=164&bmenu=a

Drool. Drool. Drool.

eXity

09-29-2003, 05:01

Yep, sounds good to me to. On the other hand, http://www.iaudio.com/zeroboard/zboard.php?id=A02&no=164&bmenu=a

Drool. Drool. Drool.

That looks soooooo friggen cool!!! But god please let the iAudio 4 have replaceable batteries and not integrated ones - I couldn't see any battery flaps there! I mean - what do I do if I am sitting in a plane for a few hours and my batteries go empty???

Nice- Mac OS support - any word on Linux - I can't read any of it - all I can see are the images ... :p

EDIT: YES!!! 최대 15시간 (AAA 1개 사용)

15 hours from 1 AAA??? are you crazy - that's friggen cool!

EDIT2: I can't see any colours on the pics there ... where exactly are the 124 colours?

AlexV

09-29-2003, 06:35

Nice- Mac OS support - any word on Linux - I can't read any of it - all I can see are the images ... :p

My Korean is, well, nonexistant too. It is supposed to be driverless USB Mass Storage compatible though, so that means it ought to work with Linux...

My only question is when can I have one? Actually two questions. "When can I have one?" and "Why can't I have one right now?" :-)

eXity

09-29-2003, 06:42

My Korean is, well, nonexistant too. It is supposed to be driverless USB Mass Storage compatible though, so that means it ought to work with Linux...

coooool!

My only question is when can I have one? Actually two questions. "When can I have one?" and "Why can't I have one right now?" :-)

Yeah - I WANT, I WANT, I WANT *starts screaming like a little kid with an attitude problem ...*

trinix

09-29-2003, 09:52

Hi,
AlexV[/b]]Yep, sounds good to me to. On the other hand, http://www.iaudio.com/zeroboard/zbo...&no=164&bmenu=a (http://www.iaudio.com/zeroboard/zboard.php?id=A02&no=164&bmenu=a)

Drool. Drool. Drool.
What the heck is going on here. The new iAUDIO 4 looks so great a can't believe. And the display is so big that you can watch a movie on it. :D No seriously the display is great.
I think the release date is about the end of the year (I read it in another thread) but I don't know is there any differences between the European and the Asian market...maybe yes?
Yeah - I WANT, I WANT, I WANT *starts screaming like a little kid with an attitude problem ...*
Lets go...

inspix

09-30-2003, 22:49

eXity

10-01-2003, 04:14

http://publish.it168.com/2003/0928/20030928007303.shtml?cPositionCode=308

Another link that has iAudio 4 pics...note the comparison picture with previous iAudio models..its so even smaller...

The iAudio is definitely on par with iRiver in terms of features...but the short battery life (15hrs) is a bit dissapointing...this could be due to the use of a AAA battery...maybe they might come up with iAudio 5 that uses a AA battery...?

*cough* *choke* SHORT? battery life??? 15 hours from 1 AAA battery is bloody impressive! Even the CW 300 only manages 30 from 1 AA battery - to he honest I don't know what you are compaining about ...

trinix

10-01-2003, 06:41

Hi,The iAudio is definitely on par with iRiver in terms of features...but the short battery life (15hrs) is a bit dissapointing...this could be due to the use of a AAA battery...maybe they might come up with iAudio 5 that uses a AA battery...?I think you a little bit right with the battery life, 15h is not so much, especially if you used to have nearly 30h with the CW300. And iRiver promis 24h with the iFP-395T but everywhere in there forum you can read that the battery life is even shorter. But what you said is right, it depends on the smaller size of the battery. I think the developer choosed a AAA is because of the smaller size and weight of the new iAUDIO4. Maybe there is no space for a AA battery with about 50mm length and 14mm in diameter. ;)
:here: But I hope iAUDIO will publish the new iAUDIO4 with a lot of details on the english site very soon!!!

inspix

10-01-2003, 18:02

*cough* *choke* SHORT? battery life??? 15 hours from 1 AAA battery is bloody impressive! Even the CW 300 only manages 30 from 1 AA battery - to he honest I don't know what you are compaining about ...

Just to clear up some misunderstandings..
I'm wasn't really complaining that 15 hrs from AAA battery is short..but I would have preferred a AA battery for the iAudio 5 so that it will correspondingly provide a longer battery life. The size difference isn't that much.

inspix

10-01-2003, 18:05

Hi,I think you a little bit right with the battery life, 15h is not so much, especially if you used to have nearly 30h with the CW300. And iRiver promis 24h with the iFP-395T but everywhere in there forum you can read that the battery life is even shorter. But what you said is right, it depends on the smaller size of the battery. I think the developer choosed a AAA is because of the smaller size and weight of the new iAUDIO4. Maybe there is no space for a AA battery with about 50mm length and 14mm in diameter. ;)
:here: But I hope iAUDIO will publish the new iAUDIO4 with a lot of details on the english site very soon!!!

Besides the architecture of the player, i tink the battery life also depends on the battery u used.
I have tried Duracell and Panasonic alkaline batteries on my iAudio.
I noticed the Panasonic batteries did not last me for 1 week, but the Duracell batteries did.

trinix

10-02-2003, 06:10

Hi,
Besides the architecture of the player, i tink the battery life also depends on the battery u used.
I have tried Duracell and Panasonic alkaline batteries on my iAudio.
I noticed the Panasonic batteries did not last me for 1 week, but the Duracell batteries did.
At the moment I am using Energizer (http://www.energizer.com/). This battery is quite ok, it plays about 24 hours. But unfortunatelly it is a normal alkaline battery. Normaly I use rechargeable one (NiMH (http://www.icculus.org/~luap/nimh.php)). Because in my opinion it is more economic and eco friendly. :grass:

Duracell (http://www.duracell.com/landing.asp)
Panasonic (http://www.panasonic.com/consumer_electronics/batteries/default_flash.asp)

trinix

10-27-2003, 05:42

Hi,
That means Mass Storage. . . :D

:here: (http://www.iaudio.com/zeroboard/zboard.php?id=A02&no=179&bmenu=a&PHPSESSID=ef5481a6f53ecc325e3e45436d78fec5)

NeTo

10-27-2003, 13:22

Wow! impressive. It seems iAudio will be very very good (i want one :()

taihobin

10-12-2004, 14:02

I use the JetShell Lite (no license needed) for transfering mp3 and other files between my computer at home and at work. I think it works just fine! Usually I don't need to download files from any other computers therefor a USB mass storage is, for me, not as important.

Note: To upload mp3 from the player you myst start JetShell with start option: /8732

Excuse me, do you know any sites where you can download JetSheel lite version for my CW300.
I have lost my CD you see, which then I cannot get a full version. I need to use the lite version.
Thank You